we are a party of national defense. >> michael: nsa surveillance has become a key issue in the ongoing role that has em-boldened libertarians and tea partiers alike. >> this strain of libertarianism that is going through both parties right now, and making big headlines, i think is a very dangerous thought. these intellectual debates, i want them to come to new jersey and sit across from the widows and orphans and have that conversation, and -- and they won't, because that's a much tougher conversation to have. >> michael: both parties? it's going through both parties? really. he joined king in calling out rand paul. he said his views put the country at risk of future terrorist attacks. to which paul responded . . . yes, heaven forbid senator paul that we waste time and money help those who lost everything in a natural disaster. i don't like to agree with any republicans, but in this case chris christie is definitely the lesser of these two evils. joining us from d.c. is friend of "the war room," friend of mine, bill press of current tv's own "full court press." great to have you here a